Here at Dutch Bike Seattle we sell appliances. Most bike shops sell sporting goods. This partially explains our curious look and lack of precise answer when you ask one of us "how much does this bike weigh?"
In the world of appliances weight isn't so important. Durability, utility, ease of use and comfort are important. In the world of sporting goods, weight, speed and technology are important. If you are shopping for a city bike, we imagine you are not racing (or racing others) to get to where you're going. I venture to say you wouldn't buy a five pack of beer to save twelve ounces in your panniers to make the ride home faster.
It is precisely this "sporting" point of view that keeps many from entering or re-entering the ranks of the everyday cyclists. Many may feel daunted (especially if they are out of shape or practice) by the special uniforms, shoes, computers and technical knowledge which accompany the bicycle sporting goods industry and practice.
Now in the appliance world, I don't care much about your uniform, training or technical knowledge. I do care about how the bike fits and feels to you. I want to know that it's going to be useful for its intended purpose, comfortable to ride every day and enjoyable for a long (long) time. Appliances can last a lifetime. Sporting goods sometimes only last as long as the next wave of technology or fad.
How many expensive mountain bikes and road bikes sit dusty in peoples' garages and closets because they are seemingly no longer comfortable to ride, or their owners no longer feel like they want to get in shape to ride? The hunched-over, neck craned up, arms extended, position on a sporting bike is not a natural position for the human body. You must adapt to the posture. So, through training and/or habituation the position can feel "normal," but this position was designed to go fast and improve control in competitive circumstances. It was not designed for everyday comfort and utility, yet in the USA it has become the de facto posture for recreational and sporting cyclists alike.
In the USA, for those who are "utility" cyclists, those who cycle to simply get around, there have been few alternatives to the "sporting" bikes. Cross bikes and city cruisers are just more upright adaptations of sporting bikes or cheap knock-offs of the Schwinn and Huffy cruisers (which were cheap back then already) of our youth. In Europe the majority of cyclists have been riding bikes designed for utility. There are many reasons we love "utility", European city bikes, from being able to ride upright, spine perfectly straight, with our head at SUV driver-level, to the ability to carry friends, family and groceries, to the ability to ride comfortably all day, running all manner of errands and commuting. These are the bikes we choose to sell — appliances — and it is the reason we may pause before attempting to answer, "how much do they weigh?"
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Here I usually one city bike locked outside my house (Baltimore) one at my work near DC's METRO rail station, and a cargo bike in my back yard for shopping. Each has locking skewers and seat-bolt, and a super-heavy chain lock, which is left where it is, so the only thing I travel with is a U-lock. Generally I take the MARC train between DC and Baltimore - though it doesn't run on weekends so then I drive.
That's exactly the point of this post. You wouldn't load your washing machine on your car and take it on vacation....that's not the purpose of Dutch/European bikes.
Utility bikes are meant to be ridden around town - to the store, to work, to the local pub and to the movies. You leave it in your garage and when you need to go some where, instead of getting in your car, you hop on your sweet bike and go. And you ride with comfort and in style!
If you want to take a bike on vacation, you take a "sporting bike"
Anne
" {explative deleted} now i think i need a $1600 bike.
just talked to the guy at dutchbikes...
... he thinks these weigh between 45 and 50, which didn't seem to concern him regarding riding, but i said if i was going to throw it on the car?... oh, he said, well that will be heavy.
we will see.
-s"
so, the concern isn't about how many sacks of flour i can carry home from safeway. rather, it's if i am going to be able to take the bike on a vacation, can i get it to the roof of the car without killing myself? the jury is still out on that one.
The Bicycle: Toy or Tool?
Thanks for what you do.
Regards,
Alan
EcoVelo
You're almost there...
Utility bikes are meant to be locked up to the rack or pole in front of your home so that they're instantly ready to ride to the store, to work, to bring the kids to kindergarten or go out to a restaurant. A garage is a luxury few European (or American for that matter) city dwellers enjoy.
A good city bike is built to live outdoors. That's why all those parts are stainless or galvanized steel, the drivetrain and brakes enclosed and the bearings sealed. These are tough outdoor dogs.
Groeten,
Henry